{"id":314,"date":"2017-01-24T13:00:51","date_gmt":"2017-01-24T12:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/?p=314"},"modified":"2018-10-16T10:28:44","modified_gmt":"2018-10-16T09:28:44","slug":"im-flying-well-sort-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/?p=314","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019m flying \u2013 well, sort of"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_323\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-323\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_01-300x89.jpg\" alt=\"Starting at... Original flight price, Bravofly, November 13, 2016\" width=\"300\" height=\"89\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-323\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_01-300x89.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_01-768x227.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_01.jpg 777w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-323\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 1. Starting at&#8230; Original flight price, Bravofly, November 13, 2016<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"opener\">I think I\u2019ll start with the good news. There\u2019s so little of it. After decades of neglect Deutsche Bahn has moved Hannover main station to within 2:30 hours of Frankfurt airport. With a little advanced booking of several train tickets, this can be achieved rather cost effectively. That cuts out the need to consider flying from the nearest airport. And meanwhile in Berlin the automatic doors at the new airport won\u2019t open or shut, so the grand opening has been postponed yet again to next year. Sigh.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_324\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-324\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_02-300x86.jpg\" alt=\"Choose your price, Bravofly\" width=\"300\" height=\"86\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_02-300x86.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_02-768x221.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_02.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-324\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 2. Choose your price, Bravofly<\/figcaption><\/figure>I had started by looking at prices from Hannover just to see if price and duration could be kept in a meaningful relationship. Flight times of 33 hours there and 29 return were really not too bad, and the price appeared reasonable at Bravofly (\u20ac1,272, Fig. 1), that then became \u20ac1,304 if you wanted to pay by bank transfer, or \u20ac1,282 if you wanted to pay with an actually existing credit card. Including a discount of \u20ac21, which makes no sense at all (Fig. 2). Sorry, no time for such games. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_325\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-325\" style=\"width: 240px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_03-240x300.jpg\" alt=\"Same story with Expedia\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-325\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_03-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_03.jpg 406w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 85vw, 240px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-325\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 3. Same story with Expedia<\/figcaption><\/figure>Expedia offered similar flights for just a bit more (Fig. 3), and the outward flight was somewhat less time-consuming. But it\u2019s the alternative spelling that gets me (\u201cUhr\u201d as in German \u201co\u2019clock\u201d is written with a capital letter and as a separate word), as well as the WordPress theme \u201cDog\u2019s Breakfast\u201d used to format the pricing information. Did I say something about the price being reasonable, because there was nothing to be booked at this price, instead the price skyrocketed to over \u20ac7,700 in the next step (Fig. 4). Oh, and Expedia gets the 2017 Creepiest of the Creepy Crawley Awards for their charmingly threatening little widget pair, \u201c366 people have already booked a flight to XXX with Expedia today\u201d and \u201c288 people are looking at flights to XXX on Expedia at the moment\u201d (Fig. 5). Funny how the numbers never change. Not that they even make any sense without context. Bye, Expedia, it\u2019s ex for you and good riddance.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_326\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-326\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_04-300x133.jpg\" alt=\"For that price I could fly six times\" width=\"300\" height=\"133\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_04-300x133.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_04-768x342.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_04.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-326\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 4. For that price I could fly six times<\/figcaption><\/figure>GoogleFlights came up with a similar pair of flights, but with different carriers. since they are not in the travel business as such, the only way of booking the flights would be direct contact to the airlines (the flight over would involve one leg Hannover to Z\u00fcrich, which is why Swiss is given as one of the airlines to book from, Fig. 6). A call revealed that their price was actually around Sfr 2,500 (give or take the same amount in \u20ac), so that was the end of that.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_327\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-327\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_05-300x98.jpg\" alt=\"Tweedledum and Tweedledee, Expedia\" width=\"300\" height=\"98\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_05-300x98.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_05.jpg 407w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-327\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 5. Tweedledum and Tweedledee, including poor grammar (twice &#8220;bei&#8221;), Expedia<\/figcaption><\/figure>Onto Frankfurt. Almost immediate relaxation of the prices by over \u20ac100, and, of course, much more flexibility of getting there and back by train. After having sussed out a couple of candidate airlines I went to the Qatar Airways website (oh, dear, sounds like a touch of pneumonia) and tried my hand at booking directly with them. The flights on offer seemed to take little more than the 24 hours absolutely necessary, and left in the late afternoon and arrived in the early morning, which suits me fine. The only caveat here is that Qatar was flying directly from Dohar to Auckland, meaning 16 hours in the can on the way there and 17 on the way back. I only hope this qualifies me as an astronaut. But it was getting late and I needed to make a decision. Which I did for somewhat less than \u20ac1,200.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_328\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-328\" style=\"width: 231px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_06-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"Not at Swiss, we take francs\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_06-231x300.jpg 231w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2017\/01\/Flying_06.jpg 691w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 231px) 85vw, 231px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-328\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fig. 6. Not at Swiss, we take francs<\/figcaption><\/figure>I then proceeded to book a reasonably priced flight separately with Air New Zealand to Invercargill at a reasonably early time to complete the journey.<\/p>\n<p>Only later did I find out that Qatar has never ever flown this route before, and the previous attempt at doing so had been called off. Now, that put a different perspective on things. Either I am going to be among the first thousand or so people to undertake this rather questionable flight, or we are going to be dumped in Melbourne or Sydney and arrive a couple of hours later and late in Auckland. Just to be on the safe side I rebooked Auckland to Invercargill for a couple of hours later to allow a stopover in Oz, and booked the flexi tarif into the deal which would allow me to book an earlier flight if we did do the marathon flight. That added another $50 in change surcharge to the bill, but it was the last thing I was worried about.<\/p>\n<p>And since hope springs eternal \u2013 it\u2019s looking rather empty in the cabin DOH-AKL at the moment, and the Qatar website allows you to choose and change your seat as often as you like. Currently I am plunked in the middle of a group of three seats with no one else in the entire row. Well, perhaps another 366 people will book onto this exactly flight via Expedia on each and every day of the remaining two weeks, so I\u2019ll be stuck with a screaming baby on one side and someone in need of 1\u00bd seats on the other.<script>sid = \"K6_Flying\";<\/script><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/vg07.met.vgwort.de\/na\/86b709046e3e4d318c0796c0c697d3ff\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I think I\u2019ll start with the good news. There\u2019s so little of it. After decades of neglect Deutsche Bahn has moved Hannover main station to within 2:30 hours of Frankfurt airport. With a little advanced booking of several train tickets, this can be achieved rather cost effectively. That cuts out the need to consider flying &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/?p=314\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I\u2019m flying \u2013 well, sort of&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[14,23,33,41,62,66,77,81,86,92,109,183,223,263],"class_list":["post-314","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-travel-advice","tag-air-new-zealand","tag-auckland","tag-berlin","tag-bravofly","tag-creepiest-of-the-creepy-crawley-award","tag-dohar","tag-expedia","tag-frankfurt","tag-googleflights","tag-hannover","tag-invercargill","tag-qatar-airways","tag-swiss","tag-zurich"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/314","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=314"}],"version-history":[{"count":26,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/314\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1795,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/314\/revisions\/1795"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=314"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=314"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi6\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=314"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}