{"id":2131,"date":"2016-10-26T13:00:52","date_gmt":"2016-10-26T12:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.skeptic.de\/blog\/kv\/?p=2131"},"modified":"2026-01-16T06:46:41","modified_gmt":"2026-01-16T05:46:41","slug":"debriefing-the-other-tramps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/?p=2131","title":{"rendered":"Debriefing the Other Tramps"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4 class=\"page_index\">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"tnc\">Tongariro Northern Circuit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"wkm\">Waikaremoana Great Walk<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"cpb\">Cape Brett<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/h4>\n<h4 class=\"special_section\" id=\"tnc\">Tongariro Northern Circuit<\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2140\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2140\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit-topo.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit-topo-300x236.png\" alt=\"tnc\" width=\"300\" height=\"236\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2140\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit-topo-300x236.png 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit-topo-768x603.png 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit-topo-1024x804.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2140\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/payhip.com\/b\/m9QOP\" class=\"payhip-add-to-cart-button\" data-theme=\"blue\" data-product=\"m9QOP\">Buy Tongariro Northern Circuit Great Walk Topo Set &#8211; \u20ac3<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"opener\">Admittedly: The walk can be done in two days. But&hellip;<\/p>\n<p>That would be turning into a raceway. If the weather is good, then the excursions to the Taranaki Falls and the Tama Lakes are indispensable. Since most of the track is very open, views from anywhere can be pretty spectacular, but these two sights should not be missed.<\/p>\n<p>The Crossing itself passes between the two mountain peaks of Tongariro and Ngauruhoe and the question remains whether to climb these peaks. If the day\u2019s section is only from Mangatepopo to Oturere or vice versa, then there would be time to attempt one peak. Ngauruhoe being much higher (2291&nbsp;m) is more tempting than Tongariro (1978&nbsp;m). However the surface of Ngauruhoe is loose scree and there is a real danger of snow falling at any time of the year, so that Tongariro is the better bet.<\/p>\n<p>The condition of the \u201cHole\u201d (Mangatepopo \u2013 Whakapapa) should be considered carefully. Recent rain will make this section almost impassable and in this case it is advisable to start or finish the track at the Mangatepopo carpark. Just make sure to arrange transport before starting the track. The bus that drops off the day hikers for the Crossing leaves at around 8:30. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>For those with more time it is worth considering doing a section of the Round the Mountain track in addition. The southern part around Ruapehu is less crowded than the Great Walk, and most of the Northern Circuit can be done without having to stay in the Great Walk huts.<figure id=\"attachment_2139\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2139\" style=\"width: 474px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit_00_svt.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit_00_svt-1024x136.png\" alt=\"Tongariro Northern Circuit, speed v time\" width=\"474\" height=\"63\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit_00_svt-1024x136.png 1024w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit_00_svt-300x40.png 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Tongariro-Northern-Circuit_00_svt-768x102.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2139\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tongariro Northern Circuit, speed v time<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"special_section\" id=\"wkm\">Waikaremoana<\/h4>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_2138\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2138\" style=\"width: 281px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk-nztopo.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk-nztopo-281x300.png\" alt=\"Waikaremoana Topo\" width=\"281\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk-nztopo-281x300.png 281w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk-nztopo-768x819.png 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk-nztopo-960x1024.png 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 281px) 100vw, 281px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2138\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/payhip.com\/b\/2bJ41\" class=\"payhip-add-to-cart-button\" data-theme=\"green\" data-product=\"2bJ41\">Buy Lake Waikaremoana Great Walk Topo Set &#8211; \u20ac4<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>This track was first walked in September, 2010, together with Henry &#038; Pauline and two LA pediatricians, Janice &#038; Trish. The first day was just the morning tramp from Onepoto to Panekire where the hut was swept out, a fire started, and an otherwise cold afternoon spent in the hut. The second day we all trooped down to Waiopaoa which we reached about lunch time, where Henry and Pauline decided they wanted to push on to Marauiti. I went with the girls on an excursion to the Korokoro Falls, after which they borrowed my cooker to cook us all an evening meal during which a glass bottle of wine surfaced that had to be emptied. I would like to emphasise that is necessary to carry cookers on this hike.<\/p>\n<p>The next day we undertook the longest section, stopping for lunch at Marauiti and getting a little wet on the way to Waiharuru. The last day we sprinted along the track to the suspension bridge at Hopuruahine where we were picked up by separate shuttles around 1:00.<\/p>\n<p>The track admits to quite some variation; even more if the camping grounds are taken into account. The water taxi will take you to most places, even to Waiopaoa for a day\u2019s hike back over Panekire to Onepoto if you want to leave your car\/camper there for the day. As for the water taxi: I ordered my place on the phone and gave them a credit card number for payment, but no payment was ever debited and the captain was reluctant to accept cash. I only hope that they didn\u2019t go broke in the meantime.<\/p>\n<p>Another possibility for exploring the lake would, of course, be by kayak, and I have seen advertising for kayak hire from Onepoto, if not from Home Bay. There are a couple of further campsites that are accessible by road that could be used for a kayak trip.<\/p>\n<p>This is an extremely isolated area and there is no public transport to Home Bay or Onepoto. There is a motorcamp at Home Bay which also provides free secure parking, so that is an alternative for accommodation on the first or last night. The road from Wairoa is unsealed for the last 26&nbsp;km, and for even longer in the direction of Rotorua, so don\u2019t try arriving at the last minute and expecting to succeed at high speed.<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"special_section\" id=\"cpb\">Cape Brett<\/h4>\n<p>This is definitely a candidate for a Great Walk. Great views all the way along, and a very interesting bit of history as well. I recommend taking the side trip to Whangamumu if you are not suffering from cramps.<\/p>\n<p>And as for the suffering: Does it make any difference? Let\u2019s begin by comparing the speed distribution for two closely spaced practically two day walks, the Waikaremoana and Cape Brett.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_2136\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2136\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts-300x154.png\" alt=\"Waikaremoana Speed Distribution (v time)\" width=\"300\" height=\"154\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts-300x154.png 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts-768x393.png 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts-1024x524.png 1024w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Waikaremoana-Great-Walk_00_dts.png 1700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2136\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Waikaremoana Speed Distribution (v time)<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure id=\"attachment_2137\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2137\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts-300x174.png\" alt=\"Cape Brett Speed Distribution (v time)\" width=\"300\" height=\"174\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2137\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts-300x174.png 300w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts-768x445.png 768w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts-1024x594.png 1024w, https:\/\/leetraynor.com\/blog.multi\/kiwi5\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2016\/10\/Cape-Brett-Walkway_00_dts.png 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2137\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cape Brett Speed Distribution (v time)<\/figcaption><\/figure>Both graphs show the distribution of speed as a function of time. The median for Waikaremoana was 4.14&nbsp;km\/h and for Cape Brett it was 3.42&nbsp;km\/h, about 18% less. Waikaremoana involves one climb of about 600&nbsp;m, Cape Brett two, one of about 350&nbsp;m and the second about 200&nbsp;m, so that they are more or less comparable. The very highest level of the distribution is the least affected, which is accounted for by being relatively intact for the first 4&nbsp;km.<br \/>\nAbout the only criticism I have is that the hut has no heating, so that if you were attempting this in bad weather you wouldn\u2019t expect to have much fun. But in good weather sunset and sunrise have to be seen to be believed.<script>blog_id = 'K5_Debriefing_Walks';<\/script><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/vg07.met.vgwort.de\/na\/d6e0788ca6a84f9698d086e970cda29b\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" alt=\"\"><script>blog_id=\"K5_Other_tramps\"<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tongariro Northern Circuit Waikaremoana Great Walk Cape Brett Tongariro Northern Circuit Admittedly: The walk can be done in two days. But&hellip; That would be turning into a raceway. If the weather is good, then the excursions to the Taranaki Falls and the Tama Lakes are indispensable. 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